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| Re: 张雷新作:南大学生宿舍 [精华] |
独钓寒江雪
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 2001-09-30 13:25 
       这里可以很明显地发现南大老师的北欧教育的背景. (感谢张雷老师提供图片) 总平面  外观 
独钓寒江雪 edited on 2001-09-30 13:29
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独钓寒江雪
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2001-09-30 13:31
 
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独钓寒江雪
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2001-09-30 13:34
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ccxpt
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2001-09-30 18:50
我觉得学欧洲这种窗，有些硬要这样做的感觉，虽然它是有味道。 |
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tfan
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2001-09-30 19:59
is there any plan available? i guess every unit shared by 4 people with toilet which is so much better than that of our generation.
tfan edited on 2001-09-30 20:04
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茶花后裔
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2001-09-30 20:10
挺动人的 |
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nijianhuigre
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2001-09-30 21:19
在南大实习的时候,我们讨论这个方案! 这是送去德国展览张雷的方案之一.我的同学还帮他做了模型,总的来说,延续了张老师的一贯风格.就是规整,富有次序和几何性. |
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史大林
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2001-09-30 21:45
在当年房屋十分紧张的六十年代，香港充满了这种住宅大楼，内凹式阳台，阳台内做一个厕所，解决了厕所通风气味的问题，所以立面就和上面的宿舍一样罗，平面也很相似嘛。 不能算是欧洲专利吧。那平开的百叶窗在风中就自由地摆来摆去，就因为南京不刮台风？ 后来香港政府有钱了，就把这些二十多层的问题楼宇逐步拆了，用的是小型液压破碎机，可不敢定向爆破。 |
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52回收站
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2001-09-30 22:01
晾衣服在哪? |
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peter_pan
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2001-09-30 22:12
请问独钓: 本周要去南京,可否告之其具体位置,是在本部校区内吗? 偶要去实地看看! |
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独钓寒江雪
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2001-09-30 22:20
peter_pan : 是在市中心的南京大学内.具体位置讲不清楚.hehe. |
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ccxpt
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2001-09-30 22:35
为什么要拿立面处理欧味十足，也未见多少创新的建筑偏偏去欧洲展出，难道不是失败么？ |
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赖特
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2001-09-30 23:51
我在南大时是晚上，看见的夜景和照片里的差不多，可能感觉还要好一点。 虽说评价一个建筑的好坏不能看夜景。 |
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i-FANG
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2001-10-01 00:38
中国有这麽好的建筑,这就是我在私下与友人说的南大底力。 果然证实我的隔海推侧,当时我只是听说南大一帮人是留瑞士回来的就让我一愣 |
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aaschool
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2001-10-01 07:03
  
aaschool edited on 2001-10-01 07:20
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aaschool
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2001-10-01 08:25
information from german magazine "Bauwelt" 35/01, 14 September 2001. if someone can translate the text i can post more. specially, it needs susitian's help. |
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rick
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2001-10-01 22:31
http://people.far2000.com/zhanglei/zuopin4.html |
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i-FANG
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2001-10-02 11:18
21：30时间还早 |
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子辉
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2001-10-02 11:51
the project looks good when it's new but i would doubt on its using effect. i think this design would be much better in the place with comparatively dry weather. this kind of plan have even been copied by some university in Wuhan. think it could be terrible for students to live in without aircondition in summer there! and the inside corridor would cost more electric lighting.
子辉 edited on 2001-10-02 11:52
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aaschool
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2001-10-03 07:04
子辉 wrote, this kind of plan have even been copied by some university in Wuhan. think it could be terrible for students to live in without aircondition in summer there! and the inside corridor would cost more electric lighting. AAschool, the corridor is one of the best parts which i like it. i didn't ask Mr Zhang but i gest it should works very well. it should costs less eletric energy. beceause one exist when another one disappear, that is quiet smart idea. when you go inside the room, the outside light is off. other nice part i like is the proportion and materials which he used they work very well also. there has some kinds of aesthetics like "digital" images. simplicity is the way zhang lei always want to achieve. the jalousie windows chang the facade as the students operate them. so the facade will be looked similar but different and still integrated not like others hanging lots of stuff or something you definately don't want to see. some part of it i worry about is the material wood and the ventilation. i am not sure about the wood how long it will last and i can not criticise about the ventilation without experience in the building.(that is the point which they should test it before design it) i geust it works like fridge, maybe can keep cold also warm. this question i should ask him when i met him in berlin but i have never ask him question cos building is not the only part of life we concern about. we enjoyed the German food and culture so much.  it is not that easy to make a simple thing become beautiful. when you achieve something you have to lose some part of it. if a building has one point i can learn from it i think that is enough for me. 
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tfan
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2001-10-03 09:23
怎么没有人到建筑现场作些报道，我有几个问题： 1 多少人一间？ 2 平方米造价多少？和一般同级别宿舍相比如何？ 3 同学的满意程度大致如何？主要原因是什么？ 4 厕所和洗漱的管理是怎样的？是否有学校定时派人清理？ 5 走廊的灯是怎样开关的？跟房间的灯是怎样配合的？ 6 该建筑用电程度如何？ 谁能解答一下，不胜感激。 我个人觉得这个方案是个很好的讨论和学习的学生公寓例子呀。 有很多从图上我觉得可能有待改进的地方，不过我没到过现场： 1 厕所和洗漱这个核心筒没能主动参与空间设计，其与房间是传统的并列和分区关系。从平面上看来，单元内估计空间不好 2 厕所和洗漱这个核心筒阻挡了进入室内的光线，由于衣服凉于阳台处，又是对光线的阻挡，学生可能会老开灯，浪费能源 3 没能利用高层的空气垂直流动解决通风问题 4 内走廊问题--光线，通风，回声等问题 5 储存空间不够 6 关于木百页问题，在中国主要是积尘问题，不知这里是怎么解决的？
tfan edited on 2001-10-03 09:37
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tfan
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2001-10-03 09:46
其实给学生买几台衣服烘干机，不就不用凉衣服了吗？不知国内宿舍有用没有？
tfan edited on 2001-10-03 09:49
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独钓寒江雪
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2001-10-03 11:08
光线的确是个问题,设计者自己也意识到了.hehe. tfan,烘干机是没可能了,牵涉到资金管理等等. |
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tfan
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2001-10-03 11:54
百页的活页看似传统连接，不知用在高层的使用寿命如何？制造商有否保证。 还有单元与走廊间有透光玻璃，要有人在廊内高歌，或恰逢一群故人相见门前嗟吁，隔声和杂光干扰睡眠问题怎么办？
tfan edited on 2001-10-03 12:32
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民兵II
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2001-10-03 14:26
just so so 平面也没什么突破，这种宿舍多的很啊 立面就不说了，的确很象杂志上的。大家都说是欧洲借鉴来的，技术借鉴无可厚非，但文化是另一回事了 |
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