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dynamic
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 2005-03-21 18:37 
      canonrevival wrote: 此柔非彼柔 
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Nomad
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2005-03-21 20:55
呵呵！王群老师和我都觉得Stan Allen比Greg Lynn好一点~~~ Nomad 
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canonrevival
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2005-03-21 23:38
 Nomad wrote: 怎么个比法呢？ 一个武当，一个明教 您具体怎么看？王老师又怎么看？讲来听听 |
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canonrevival
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2005-03-21 23:40
dynamic wrote: 温柔的柔 Greg Lynn很温柔，相对于那几位大仙来说。 |
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canonrevival
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2005-03-22 00:50
Greg Lynn's book "Intricacy" by Greg Lynn, Claudia Gould, Tom Friedman Paperback: 50 pages Publisher: University of Pennsylvania, Institute of Cont (May 1, 2003) ISBN: 0884541029 Product Dimensions: 12.4 x 9.0 x 0.2 inches [Reviews] Product Description: Curated by noted architect and theorist Greg Lynn, Intricacy gathers work by artists, designers, and architects that reflects an emerging sensibility characterized by "highly complex compositions of an almost organic intricacy with macroscopic holism, coherence, and synthesis, and microscopic variation and diversity." Participants include painter Fabian Marcaccio, sculptor Tom Friedman, fashion designer Hussein Chalayan, and architects Peter Eisenman and Preston Scott Cohen. Artists Include: David Reed, Hussein Chalayan, Jesse Reiser, Nanako Umemoto, Karl Chu, Preston Scott Cohen, Farshid Moussavi, Alejandro Zaera-Polo, Chris Cunningham, Tom Friedman, Nader Tehrani, Greg Lynn, Peter Eisenman and Fabian Marcaccio amongst others. Foreword by Claudia Gould. Essay by Greg Lynn. 
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建筑a都市u
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2005-03-24 14:08
Canon兄怎么不发帖了？还瞪着看呢。买的这本要4月才到，郁闷... |
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canonrevival
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2005-03-25 00:42
呵呵出差去了，今夜我们继续说blob。 |
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canonrevival
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2005-03-25 01:26
Greg Lynn's book “Animate Form” by Greg Lynn List Price: $40.00 Hardcover: 203 pages Publisher: Princeton Architectural Press; Bk&CD-Rom edition (September, 1998) ISBN: 1568980833 Product Dimensions: 9.1 x 6.9 x 0.8 inches [Reviews] Along with Spuybroek and Scottish-Japanese duo Ushida Findlay, Greg Lynn is one of the leading American architect-theorists of the '90s hyper surface or waveform architecture. His second book Animate Form carefully leads you through the antecedents-Duchamp's Nude Descending, Hans Jenny's flow motion cymatics, then the '90s topological turn towards the vectorial flow of spline curves before guiding you through spectacular competition entries such as the 1994 Yokohama International Port Terminal. Lynn will be lecturing at the Royal College of Art's Youtopia series on May 11. See you there! [Description] Probably no other contemporary architect has created such a compelling and productive practice through the use of computer technology as Greg Lynn. Employing state of the art animation and special effects software, Lynn transforms space and form into highly plastic and flexible entities. He uses topological geometries to bend, twist, deform, and differentiate structure, challenging preconceived notions of architecture. Animate Form is a book and interactive CD-ROM of recent architectural projects designed by Form, the office of Greg Lynn. The porjects documented in Animate Form explore the potential of time-based animation techniques to inform architectural design. Lynn's introduction provides a theoretical context for the experimental work that follows. Each project is subsequently explored in detail through text and full color graphics. The CD-ROM, packaged with the book, is an interactive hypertext environment that fully documents the design processes through three-dimensional renderings and animation sequences.         
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canonrevival
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2005-03-25 01:36
Greg Lynn's book "Architectural Laboratories" by Greg Lynn, Hani Rashid, Peter Weibel, Max Hollein List Price: $29.95 Paperback: 176 pages Publisher: NAI Publishers (July 15, 2002) ISBN: 9056622412 Product Dimensions: 9.7 x 7.6 x 0.7 inches [Reviews] [About the Author] Greg Lynn has been an Adjunct Associate Professor at Columbia University since 1990. He is presently the Professor of Spatial Conception and Exploration at the ETH in Zürich, the Davenport Visiting Professor at Yale University, and a Studio Professor at the University of California, Los Angeles. His office Greg Lynn FORM is working in collaborative partnerships with a variety of architects on a range of projects, including a line of international showrooms for PGLIFE.COM; the Cincinnati Country Day School in Cincinnati, Ohio; the Vision Plan for Rutgers University in New Brunswick, New Jersey; the Ark of the World Museum in Costa Rica; and the recently completed Korean Presbyterian Church of New York. Hani Rashid is an Adjunct Associate Professor of Architecture at Columbia University in New York, and has taught architecture and lectured throughout Europe and the United States. In 1989, along with partner Lise Anne Couture, he formed Asymptote in New York City. Their repertoire ranges from experimental installations and computer-generated environments to building designs and urban planning. Most recently Rashid and Couture designed a large-scale computer-generated environment for the New York Stock Exchange and an accompanying "Theater of Operations" now installed on the floor of the NYSE. Asymptote is also designing the Guggenheim Virtual Museum as a fully interactive multidimensional web-based environment, as well as building projects in San Francisco, New York, and Kyoto. Max Hollein is the director of the Schirn Kunstahalle, Germany and was the United States Commissioner to the 7th Venice Architecture Biennale. [Description] Together with a select group of international students from Columbia University and the University of California, Los Angeles, highly respected architects and architectural theoreticians Hani Rashid and Greg Lynn transformed the United States Pavilion during the Venice Biennale 2000 into a four-week workshop and forum for architectural discourse: a laboratory. Investigating, producing, and reviewing a variety of architectural schemes, the participants demonstrated the practice and direction of a new generation of architects. "Architectural Laboratories" presents the results of this workshop through 10 projects that focus on the themes "The Embryologic House" and "Augmented Architecture." Guest critiques of the students' designs are offered by philosopher and cultural critic Mark C. Taylor, ZKM chairman Peter Weibel, and Max Hollein, the United States Commissioner for the biennale. Essays by Max Hollein, Greg Lynn, Hani Rashid, Mark Taylor and Peter Weibel. 
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canonrevival
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2005-03-25 01:45
Greg Lynn's book Folding in Architecture (Architectural Design Profile) by Greg Lynn (Editor) List Price: $45.00 Paperback: 112 pages Publisher: John Wiley & Sons; Revised edition (June 11, 2004) ISBN: 0470092181 Product Dimensions: 0.5 x 9.8 x 11.8 inches [Reviews] About the Author Greg Lynn is an architect with practices in Los Angeles (FORM) and New York (United Architects). He is also a Professor at the Universität für angewandte Kunst Wien, Davenport Visiting Professor at Yale University (2004) and Studio Professor at UCLA. Mario Carpo is Head of the Study Centre at the Canadian Centre for Architecture, Montreal; Robert Sterling Clark Visiting Professor of Art History at Williams College (2004); and Associate Professor of Architectural History at the School of Architecture of Saint-Etienne, France (on leave). Product Description: This seminal book from Architectural Design was originally published in 1993, at a time of crucial change and on the eve of the digital revolution. It brought together a series of essays that many believe created the favourable environment in which computer-based design could thrive. Considered one of the most influential architecture publications of the 1990s, this book ranks as a classic and in itself is a crucial chapter of history, though one that has been out of print since 1999. This faithful reprinting includes a substantial new introductory essay by Mario Carpo, Head of the Study Centre at the Canadian Centre for Architecture, which examines the impact of the original texts and their ongoing significance. Thereafter, the book is true to its original content showcasing projects by ground-breaking architects such as Greg Lynn, Jeffrey Kipnis, Bahram Shirdel, Frank Gehry and Philip Johnson.         
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canonrevival
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2005-03-25 02:24
再占位子~ 请斑竹保留此回复，以便之后随时增加补充内容。多谢！ |
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canonrevival
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2005-03-25 02:43
[ Asymptote ( Hani Raschid &Lise Anne couture ) ] 网站 http://www.asymptote.net http://www.asymptote-architecture.com 首先是Asymptote（渐近线）简介  然后是Hani Raschid 简介   下面是Asymptote部分业绩（网站似乎3年没有更新了） ========================================= [Select Projects] 2002 Carlos Miele Flagship store Lille 2004 Urban Theaters FLUX Exhibition Pavilion Skyscape Private residence Guggenheim Head Offices HydraPier, Floriade Municipal Pavilion 2001 Mercedes-Benz Museum-competition BMW Delivery and Event Center-competition Eyebeam Museum for Art and Technology-competition Enron Visitor and Conference Center Knoll Showroom Daimler Chrysler Museum-competition 2000 Mission Multi Media Center King Street Residences Guggenheim Offices WIPO Headquarters-invited competition Beukenhorst Master Plan School of the Arts, Columbia University Knoll Furniture Systems NYSE 3D Web Enviroment Issey Miyake Flagship Store 1999 Guggenheim Center for Art and Technology New York Stock Exchange Advanced Trading Floor Operations Center Guggenheim Virtual Museum Artist’s Residence Stream House 1998 Kyoto Edutainment and Technology Center Music Theatre-competition New York Stock Exchange Virtual Trading Floor (3DTF) Phase 2 1997 LegoZone Display Area Aarhus Museum of Modern Art-competition New York Stock Exchange Virtual Trading Floor (3DTF) Phase 1 1996 Univers Multimedia Theatre Universal City Osaka Study Multi-Media Research Facility 1995 National Museum of Korea-competition (selected for the Korean Pavilion at the Venice Biennale 1998) New York, NY USA Lille, France Bologna, Italy New York, NY USA New York, NY USA Haarlemmermeer, Netherlands Stuttgart, Germany Munich, Germany New York, USA Texas, USA Chicago, USA Stuttgart, Germany San Francisco, USA San Francisco, USA New York, USA Geneva, Switzerland Amsterdam, The Netherlands New York, USA New York, USA New York, USA New York, USA New York, USA New York, USA New York, USA New York, USA Connecticut, USA Kyoto, Japan Graz, Austria New York, USA Billund, Denmark Aarhus, Denmark New York, USA Aarhus, Denmark Osaka, Japan Kyoto, Japan Seoul, South Korea 1994 International Seaport Terminal-competition Tohoku Historical Museum-competition 1993 Contemporary Arts Center-competition (4th Place) Mariko Transport Co. Headquarters 1992 Times Square Interventions Parliamentary Precinct / Spreebogen-competition 1991 National Dutch Courthouse-competition - 1st. Place Ideenwettbewerb Riem study-competition Six Housing Units “Light Prop” Public Art Project 1990 Moscow State Theatre-competition (Honorable Mention) 1989 Library of Alexandria-competition (4th Place) Yokohama, Japan Sendai, Japan Tours, France Tokyo, Japan New York, USA Berlin, Germany Groningen, The Netherlands Berlin, Germany Brig, Switzerland Toronto, Canada Moscow, Russia Alexandria, Egypt =============================== [Fellowships and Awards] 2002 AIA Design Awards - Architecture category Webby Awards 2001 National Design Awards finalist 2000 Artist in Residence, CCAC 1999 Emerging Voices: Architecture League of New York 1996 Annual Building Prize, Univers Theater 1996 Second Prize, Paper Art Biennial 1994 40 Under 40 1992 New York Foundation for the Arts Fellowship 1989 30 Under 30, Interior Magazine 1989 Canada Council for the Arts 1988-89 Muschenheim Fellowship, University of Michigan New York, USA San Francisco, CA. USA New York, USA San Francisco, CA, USA New York, USA Aarhus, Denmark Duren, Germany New York, USA New York, USA New York, USA Canada Michigan, USA ============================== [Exhibitions] 2002 M.Scapes Documenta 11 Creative Time Davison Art Center Design Exchange Max Protetch Gallery Venice Bienale National Building Museum Landesmuseum Joanneum Architekturmuseum AIA Gallery, Yale University Mercedes Museum Stuttgart AEDES Gallery stratascape: a collaboration by Hani Rashid + Lise Anne Couture of Asymptote and Karim Rashid 2001 Eyebeam Atelier Deutsches Architektur Museum of Modern Art Kunstlerhaus Brooklyn Museum Davison Art Center 2000 Julie Saul Gallery CCAC Venice Biennale Louisianna Museum CVAC Galerie Cato Jans Feigen Gallery 1999 Frederieke Taylor TZ Art Gallery Museum of Modern Art Berkeley Art Museum FRAC Henry Urbach Architecture Frederieke Taylor TZ Art Gallery Synworld German Architecture Center-DAZ Numark Gallery Parsons School of Design Centre Canadien d’Architecture Dansk Arkitektur / Gammeldok Protech Julie Saul Gallery 1998 Smith College Museum of Art New York, NY, USA Kassel, Germany New York, USA Middletown, CT, USA Toronto, Ontario New York, USA Venice, Italy Washington, DC, USA Graz, Austria Munich, Germany New Haven, CT, USA Stuttgart, Germany Berlin, Germany Philadelphia, PA, USA New York, USA Frankfurt, Germany San Francisco, USA Vienna, Austria Brooklyn, New York Middletown, Connecticut New York, USA San Francisco, USA Venice, Italy Copenhagen, Denmark Storrs, CT, USA Hamburg, Germany New York, USA New York, USA New York, USA Berkeley, CA, USA Orleans, France New York, USA New York, USA Vienna, Austria Berlin, Germany Washington DC, USA New York, USA Quebec, Canada Copenhagen, Denmark New York, USA New York, USA Northampton, MA, USA Visionaire, New York, NY Documenta 11 | Flux 3.0-Mscape City Consuming Places | Flux 4.0-Ascapes Abstraction & Representation New Landscape A New World Trade Center: Design Proposals A New World Trade Center: Design Proposals A New World Trade Center: Design Proposals Latent Utopias Eyebeam (Permanent Architecture Collection) Open Source Architecture: Building Eyebeam Proposals for a new Mercedes Benz Museum Proposals: BMW Event and Delivery Center ICA (Institute of Contemporary Art) Open Source Architecture: Building Eyebeam “Digital/Real” “010101” “Global Tools” “Digital Printmaking Now” “Abstraction and Representation “Architectural Constructs” “FluxSpace 1.0” “FluxSpace 2.0” “Vision and Reality” “Working Digital” “Millennium Futures to Come” “Compressions” “(un) comfortable surroundings” Selections from the Permanent Collection “Equal Partners” Archilab “OffsideOn” “I-Scapes V 1.0” “playwork : hyperspace” “Space ‘99” “Digital Sites” Group Show “architecture at the edge” Enchantier: Collections of the CCA “Mutations” Max “Millenium Futures to Come” Digital Sites” Group Show “Equal Partners” 1998 … American Academy Aedes Gallerie Parsons School of Design 1997 Musee de Montagris Radhushallen 1996 Kunsthalle Leopold-Hoesch-Museum International Biennal of Architecture Belem Cultural Center TZ Art Gallery Kuntsverein 1995 Charlottenborg Nouveau Musee 1994 Canadian Center for Architecture Takashimaya Gallery Uzzan Gallerie Museum of Contemporary Art Contemporary Cultural Center Musee des Beaux Arts 1993 German Cultural Center Columbia University Whiteleys 1991 Sadock & Uzzan Galerie 1990 Princeton University Buell Hall Fenster Gallery Unesco Headquarters Finalists Staatliche Kunsthalle AEDES Gallery Pacific Design Center Emily Carr Gallery 1989 AEDES/Pavilion de l’Arsenal Gallery 76 Steelcase Gallery Griffith Mcgear Gallery 1988 Artists Space Rome, Italy Berlin, Germany New York, USA Montagris, France Aarhus, Denmark Vienna, Austria Duren, Germany Venice, Korean Pavilion Lisbon, Portugal New York, USA Munich, Germany Copenhagen, Denmark Villeurbanne, France Montreal, Canada Kyoto, Japan Paris, France Los Angeles, USA Tours, France Chartres, France New York, USA New York, USA London, England Paris, France Princeton, NJ, USA New York, USA Frankfurt, Germany Paris, France Berlin, Germany Berlin, Germany Los Angeles, CA, USA Vancouver, Canada Paris, France Toronto, Canada New York, USA New York, USA New York, USA “@Edge” “TransArchitectures” “Declassified” “Points de Vue” “Aarhus Kunstmuseum” “Artistes/Architects” “Paper Art Biennale” “Future Visions for Korea” “Artistes/Architects” “Bare Bones” “Artistes/Architects” ‘Overlooking the City” ‘Artistes/Architects” “Urban Revisions” “Future City Art Museum” “Hyperfine Splitting” “Urban Revisions” “L’architecte est sur les lieux” “L’architecte est sur les lieux” “Designing a Capital” “Berlin Spreebogen” “Theory & Experimentation” “Les Architectes Plasticiens” “Anaaglyptic Architecture” “Optigraph 3” “Asymptote” Alexandria Library “Paris-Architektur und Utopie” “Experimental Architecture” “ West Coast Gateway” Selected Projects by Asymptote “Paris -21st Century” Asymptote-Selected Projects “30 Under 30” “Form; Being; Absence” “Kursaal for an Evacuee” ================================================= 以下是一段有趣的采访，偶尔在网上看到。 hani rashid / asymptote hani rashid was born in cairo, egypt in 1958 to a british mother and egyptian father and raised in england and canada (by the way - hani is the brother of karim rashid). he received his bachelor of architecture degree in 1983 from carleton university in ottawa, canada and a masters of architecture degree in 1985 from the cranbrook academy of art in the usa. in 1988 he co-founded with partner lise anne couture (*1959), asymptote, architectural design and research practice, based in new york. hani has been a professor of architecture at the columbia university graduate school of architecture and planning since 1989. in 1995 he co-developed the school’s advanced digital design program and has also been taught at numerous universities including the royal danish academy in copenhagen, the southern california institute of architecture in los angeles, the university of lund, sweden, the graduate school of design at harvard university and the stadleschule in frankfurt. asymptote has produced a body of work that has placed the practice at the forefront of architectural and interactive digital design. asymptote's projects range from spatial experimentation and installations to building and urban design to computer generated environments and architectures. they have created a virtual trading floor for the new york stock exchange and the guggenheim virtual museum, which are fully navigable interactive multi-dimensional architectural environments. other clients include the osaka gas, the kyoto research park and knoll international. hani rashid was also one of two united states representatives who exhibited in the american pavillion during the venice biennale in 2000. the work of asymptote is in various museum collections including moma, sfmoma, the canadian center for architecture, the netherlands institute of architecture and at the solomon r. guggenheim. http://www.asymptote.net ----------------------------------------------------------------- new york, march 5, 2002 ------------------------------ what is the best moment of the day? there are two, very early in my office before anyone gets there, and the other when my cell phone is turned off and I switch to private-life mode. what kind of music do you listen to at the moment? anything somafm.com streams do you listen to the radio? only in NYC taxis. what books do you have on your bedside table? a guidebook to beijing, asymptote flux final proof, a apple power book. where do you get news from? live news feeds such as newsnow.co.uk do you read design magazines? with reluctance. do you notice how women dress? do you have any preferences? yes and yes! what kind of clothes do you avoid wearing? tight, shiny, bright, beige, used and labeled. do you have any pets? no…however my son has become quite attached to his robot dog. when you were a child, what did you want to be? an artist like my dad. where do you work on your designs and architectural projects? airplanes, trains, beds, hotels, showers and at the office sometimes. who would you like to design something for? airbus the city of rome and any sea frontage in scandinavia. do you discuss or exchange ideas with other creatives? absolutely, with the asymptote team, various NY artists I know and respect, web designers and crack programmers, museum directors and curators, other architects and designers like my brother and his buddies, my students and some people I respect in advertising, music ( my sister and her buddies) and people involved in the IT and web industries as well. describe your style like a good friend of yours would describe it. adequately neurotic, slightly fanatic and inquisitive as hell. form follows function in the digital environment? form follows means, means follow tools, tools yield to desires, and desire is everything. which of your projects has given you the most satisfaction? the virtual trading floor for the NYSE, our office system for knoll, and our first completed building opening next month in holland. are there any designer and/or architect, you appreciate a lot? andre bloc, eric mendelson, bruno taut, vladimir melnikov… frederic kiesler, georges maciunas and john cage and above all marcel duchamp (these last three are not really designers or architects but crucial to our work) and those still active, are there any particular ones you appreciate? rem koolhas’ naiveté and zaha hadid’s spirit to name two... any advice for the young? curiosity, humility, optimism and lots of gumption will see you through almost anything. what are you afraid of regarding the future? small mindedness, fanatics, the banal, and the insidious voiding of cultures. (in age of fourteen proust was given an english album "confessions : an album to record thoughts, feelings". seven years later marcel proust published this questionaire) in the literary salons in nineteenth century paris, this parlour game was a popular amusement. for designboom hani rashid has answered these 'old fashioned' questions. ............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... the main traits of my character. curiosity and a need for space (physical and otherwise). a quality I desire in a man. intelligence and generosity and vision. a quality I desire in a woman. intelligence and vision and generosity. what I appreciate most among my friends. vast horizons, ceaseless optimism and lots of tolerance. my principal defect. being on time. my favorite occupation. conceptual artist. my dream of felicity. endless time spent with the people I love. what would be the biggest misfortune for me. no more ideas. who I would like to be. a newborn. were I would like to live. new york city. the color I prefer. silver-blue. the flower I love. real. the bird I prefer. digital. my favorite authors. huysmans, roussel, rabalais and genet. my favorite poets. tzara and cocteau. my heroes in fiction. ulysses (joyce) my heroines in fiction. rose selavey. my favorite composers. terrance riley, john cage and glen branca. my favorite artists. tom friedman, sophie calle, maurizio cattelan. my favorite names. tynan, theo and luca. what I dislike the most. routines and self inflicted boredom. the historic characters I dislike most. evil ones. the military enterprise I like the most. absolutely none. the reformation I appreciate the most. the human ones. nature’s gift I would like to have. harmony, perfection and morphogenesis. how I would like to die. quietly and quickly. my soul's present condition. sound, secure and whole. the faults I can bear. absent mindedness, tardiness and in some, self grandizing. my motto. no motto is a good motto.
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建筑a都市u
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2005-03-25 16:06
Greg Lynn的理论基础是屈米那里吗？应该也是建筑内部自发的进化。 除了怪异的Form外他对建筑学做了什么实质贡献？ 他公司名字的Form和传统建筑学的Form有什么区别？ 不懂就问。 
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canonrevival
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2005-03-26 01:08
（1）A+U兄可以看看网站上关于这八个关键词的解释 bleb blob fold flowers strand shred skins teeth branch （2）Greg Lynn的贡献可就大了。如是说： Because of his early combination of degrees in philosophy and architecture, Greg Lynn has been involved in combining the realities of design and construction with the speculative, theoretical and experimental potentials of writing and teaching. Greg Lynn FORM has defined how architects use computers as a design medium. Projects, publications, research and exhibitions have shaped both the use of advanced technology in design and accelerated its integration into construction. The firm’s reputation for these innovations is undisputed and each new project builds on this achievement. Greg Lynn FORM is at the center of debate and discussion not only in American architecture but in the international arena of design culture. From Time Magazine’s list of “100 Innovators for CNN, from Architecture Magazine to Der Spiegel and the Economist, projects that range from retail interiors to cultural institutions, from public housing to coffee sets, have been awarded, praised, contested and never overlooked.” （3）个人理解：form其实是动词，它在强调设计生成的逻辑性和介乎the particular 和the general之间的拓扑性 。如是说：Blobs constitute a formal intervention in contemporary discussions of tectonics. That is, blobs intervene on the level of form, but they promise to seep into those gaps in representation where the particular and the general have been forced to reconcile--not to suture those gaps with their sticky surfaces but to call attention to the necessary existence of gaps in representation.
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